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KWierso
MYRADORABLE
#7141   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to PrincessNybo, #7140:
And they're cheap!
And multipurpose, in your case...
crazy4AWDs
#7142   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to PrincessNybo, #7140:

Yes, because your heat sink really doesn't like the taste of mint.

No, I know why, I'm just being silly.

It's neat how useful various toothbrushes are, any mechanic or generally handy guy can tell you how nice it is to keep a few horse tooth brushes in your box.

PrincessNybo
Sponsor
#7143   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to KWierso, #7141:
And multipurpose, in your case...

LOL no. Once a toothbrush has been used by one of our dogs, it's quite chewed up, and no longer functional for detail cleaning work. We actually had to get more durable brushes for them, which is how I discovered how handy that style is for cleaning computers. I had several spares at my disposal.
Trainrek
#7144   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to PrincessNybo, #7143:

Cha', like totally.

In related news: new development with the build and wanted to run something past yaz.

The minimum power requirements for the Diamond video card are 450W (600W for crossfire), both of which are already covered.

It was most fortunate the old PSU went out about nine months ago when it did because I caught that beauty on sale, and am already 'future proof' should I decide to add another one later.

Anyway, here's the issue, the card normally requires 450W, max I'm guessing like when you're playing Unreal Tournament or WoW or whatever it is you kids are playing these days. Before I install it into the tower, I'm going to be assembling it in the 'computer lab' first....okay, so it's a small area in the basement next to the furnace set aside for computer work with a table, some shelving, a buncha pegs screwed into the wood to hang stuff from. I do all of the more intensive PC building, soldering, repair work and testing there.

Problem is, the test bench I'm going to be using for it has a PSU that only puts out 350W; but the only thing I'll be using it for is an FFR. Once I get windows re-installed on the HDD I'll be using for the new boot drive, I'll transplant everything into the turbine before replacing the side case fan.

Anyway, do you think 350W will be enough for this system and that Video Card for the time being until I get it installed in it's new home?
Trainrek
#7145   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to Trainrek, #7144:

Whoops, wrong link; this is what I wanted to post.
crazy4AWDs
#7146   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to Trainrek, #7144:

As long as you don't run anything hefty you'll probably be fine. The card probably uses 100W at full load (random guess, in reality it's probably more than that) so keep it at idle and... And to be extra careful keep your CPU usage low, you can limit it if you want to. With a card at idle and a CPU running at %20 you shouldn't be using much power, maybe 200W?

These are all just guesses so don't set up a cross and get a fire going if I'm wrong a bit.


PrincessNybo
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#7147   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to Trainrek, #7144:

Does that 350W PSU even have enough PCI-e power connectors for your video card? I somehow doubt it.
crazy4AWDs
#7148   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to PrincessNybo, #7147:

Oh-ho. Yeah, fair question.

Do most video cards still come with a molex to PCI E adapter? If so that will get you through the build stage at least.
papercup
#7149   Posted 1 year ago
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(that 6770 only takes 1 pcie connector, its kinda hidden inside the plastic heatsink, the other hole beneath it looks like it has one, but it is empty)

I'm using one of the 2x4pin->pcie adapters to power it since that psu didn't have any pcie connectors.

I ran my i5 2500 system that has that same card in it off a kill-a-watt for 3 days and took down some numbers when I did it.
Under peak cpu load, it drew 145W and idle it got down to 73W.
My gaming load was mostly in fallout which probably isn't as intensive as some of the FPS's, so I just ran a furmark test on it a couple minutes ago at 2048x1152. It got to 16fps with everything turned up for a burnin test and seemed to peak at a 194W draw (it dropped down to 80W after I stopped the furmark and seems to hover there if all I'm doing is browsing).
Fan on the video card got to 2045 rpm (53%); you are putting better cooling in your case and have a lot more room than what I've got so yours may not get that warm.

Mine's on a low-end Antec BP350, so at least some 350W psu's can run the card. I don't have a spindle drive in that system, and your proc can potentially draw 30 more watts than mine but that should still be under 250W total. My longest session that taxxed the card was maybe 4 hours, it likely would have had issues in that amount of time if it wasn't getting enough juice.


Trainrek
#7150   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to papercup, #7149:

Okay, now I'm positive we have the same video card now, but for whatever reason, the case on yours is a lot more enveloping, but the one on mine is only a plastic cover. It's a lot more open than yours, and I can see directly into the heatsink pipes.

Granted, I was a bit disappointed at first because it didn't have that kewl plastic housing like yours does, but this slight variation on the housing opens it up a lot more for airflow, and the new Zalman allows for plenty of space between it and the new case fan. With the 250mm side case fan blowing fresh air directly down onto the card and the exposed heatsink/pipes, it seems to give it an added dimension of unforeseen performance enhancements on top of what I already got.






Rather crappy camera, but you can get a good idea of the difference in plastic shielding between the two cards.
papercup
#7151   Posted 1 year ago
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I think I'd rather have gotten the style you have. If I ever decide to replace the gpu heatsink/fan it's gonna be more of a pain to get mine off.

So, did it power up? Did the old PSU carry the load?
Trainrek
#7152   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to papercup, #7151:

I wound up not being able to use the test bench at all because the PSU didn't have a PCIE rail on it, so I just wound up becoming the embodiment of an old Nike commercial and had to 'Just Do It'. It only took a few hours to install the hardware and new OS on another 120GB ESata HDD I uh....borrowed....from another system.

It needed a format anyway, and I have it put back together and re-installed long before he gets outtah jail....

Anyway, the only problem I'm having now is VLC keeps crashing faster than Rick Perry's career;

XP pro SP-3 (32bit): updated
K-lite codec pack (silent install): updated and installed
Divx: same
Realplayer: same

And I've tried re-downloading and re-installing VLC multiple times thinking it might be a corrupted mirror file or something, but still no worky... But that's not the weird part; the weird part is, I've had issues like this in the past but it's always been a quick and simple fix because the 'puter just didn't have the codecs necessary, so all media players would crash when playing a particular file extension. But it's always been easy to fix, and once the codecs were installed in times past, VLC would work just fine as would all media players.

This time around, VLC is the only one being stubborn as all file extensions play just fine in all the other media players, and this one has me stumped... And it's not like it's a big deal or anything as I don't mind WMP or DivX player or whatever as they work fine, I just prefer VLC is all.

Ideas?
WindowsRules
#7153   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to Trainrek, #7152:

The only thing that I can think of is an invalid registry entry. So I recommend running CCleaner and check the registry for errors that might cause this problem.

However I think we should wait and see if there are any better ideas.
crazy4AWDs
#7154   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to Trainrek, #7152:

Well VLC runs off of internal codecs so regardless of what you have going on (codec wise) it should be working just fine. I'm sure there's a way to make it run off of external codecs but I doubt anyone does that?

Ditto on cleaning the reg.

It's pretty much %100 not a codec problem though.
papercup
#7155   Posted 1 year ago
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VLC did just update to 2.0 in the last week. (I'm not a fan of the new layout in osx).
You could try 1.1.9 : download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/1.1.9/win32/
See if it's doing the same thing.
Trainrek
#7156   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to WindowsRules, #7153:

That was actually my first thought after getting everything set up. I also ran full sweeps with both Malwarebytes and S&D just to make sure. And then, I thought I had a breakthrough when I noticed I was running K-lite 5.2.something until I dl'd the updated 7.12.whatever.

Subbed files were finally playin properly in all other media players, but again, VLC crashes instantly.

In reply to papercup, #7155:

I actually noticed that too and keep thinking that might be the problem cuz the new version just doesn't seem to like XP pro for some reason, and that was gonna be my next move; thanks.
Trainrek
#7157   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to Trainrek, #7150:

Yaknow, speaking of that reduced plastic housing, I keep looking at it and thinking I have more than enough room to remove the South Bridge heatsink fins and replace them with that Titan Ironheart instead. I could then plug it into the un-used CPU fan port on the other side of the MB giving me direct access to fan control using the F-Stream tuning tool!

UCC is also VRRRR kewl BTW. Underclocking unused cores to overclock the thread locked ones giving you turbo performance without sacrificing CPU temp or power consumption...

*Rek just stares vacantly*

....it'll make it GO faster....

*Rek smiles* "Nice!"
Trainrek
#7158   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to papercup, #7149:

One more thing: What with that fricken' RATS NEST you call a PSU anyway?

Dimension 12 really needs to use twist ties....
Trainrek
#7159   Posted 1 year ago
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*shuffles in*

Bad news nobody...



Even with windows firewall turned off, still no luck.

1.1.9 works, it's just glitchy and needs the patch to work smoothly.

Ugh...it's like I go through this every time I get a new computer, and it's a slightly different problem every time so past fixes aren't working. Hmmmm, wonder if a different mirror would make a difference...
crazy4AWDs
#7160   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to Trainrek, #7159:

Out of curiosity (and a need to keep this from becoming a quintuple post) why do you use K lite and VLC?

papercup
#7161   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to Trainrek, #7158:
It's an ugly little silverstone case (it's about 8" high, 11" high and 13" deep). There is maybe a millimeter on all sides of the microatx case. There's no room for anything. There's nothing pretty about the inside and that PSU isn't modular. Even the motherboard is ugly; so no chassis windows for this system. So, short stubby and ugly. Like me.

Other thoughts on your VLC quest:
I just tried the 1.1.11 download (I missed that they went over 1.1.9, good job me.) on a winxp sp3 system. I received an 'unknown publisher' verfication message, but it was just a 'are you sure you want to run this software' dialog. It didn't delete the file. Is that dialog something that comes up after VLC is initially installed (the language is weird . .the whole "Thus, the file was deleted" is off. . ). I did find a reference to that message inside 'update.c' in the vlc source. If that message is coming up in 1.1.9 when you are running the update (Help, Check for Updates), try removing 1.1.9 and installing directly to 1.1.11. I'm not convinced it's going to help the glitchiness you're seeing though. You could also try one of the vlc 2.1.0 nightly builds - generally it's better to avoid messing with nightlies (it's worse than trying out beta code in some cases), but it's always possible they addressed the crash issue you were seeing with the initial 2.0 launch.
Surfertie
RTX 2013
#7162   Posted 1 year ago
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Looking for a new laptop. The most I would like to spend is in the 600-700 range. I will mostly just be playing random easy games on it like Minecraft and steam stuff. I will be browsing the web and that is about it. Some word stuff but nothing to serious. Any suggestions? I went to cnet.com and found this:
reviews.cnet.com/laptops/samsung-series-3-np30...

seems good, what are some thoughts?
PrincessNybo
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#7163   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to Surfertie, #7162:

I think you could do a whole lot better for gaming within your budget, since a 1.3 GHz Core i3 is going to struggle quite a bit, even with the games you mentioned. I also noticed the screen size on the one you linked is 11.6 inches. Do you want something that small?
Surfertie
RTX 2013
#7164   Posted 1 year ago
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I like to refer to myself as laptop ignorant. I wasn't to worried about the screen because I would just hook it up to a monitor or my tv. But I am open to suggestions.
crazy4AWDs
#7165   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to Surfertie, #7164:

Suggestion: Get something with a decent sized screen and a bit of power. Then hook it up to your monitor or TV AND use the laptop screen. Once you go multi monitor you never go back!

It's just so efficient.

And as a rule of thumb you get (quite a bit) more for your money with AMD processors. But high end AMD laptops are few and far between these days.

After about 30 seconds of poking about I found this. It should have plenty of...everything you might need.

I'm sure with a little more effort you could find something better. I think you can pick up and I7 with a decent GPU for $700ish.
PrincessNybo
Sponsor
#7166   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to Surfertie, #7164:

Boom.
Surfertie
RTX 2013
#7167   Posted 1 year ago
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Thank you PrincessNybo for your help. (Also Crazy4AWDs) Now it is just the need to pull the trigger on a new laptop.
Surfertie
RTX 2013
#7168   Posted 1 year ago
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Done...thanks for the help again! Now I just want it to be here.
crazy4AWDs
#7169   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to Surfertie, #7168:

Did you go with Nybo's suggestion?
Surfertie
RTX 2013
#7170   Posted 1 year ago
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I did. I asked two of my friends and they both said Nybo's. Sorry but thanks for the suggestion!
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