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Lemmy7003
#163831   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to MoreLikePuma, #163907:

I think we're entering a realm of opinion. But, for an example, I believe Batman Begins has a better theme of 'Fear', as opposed to The Dark Knight, which I find hard to get a theme from.
MoreLikePuma
#163832   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to Lemmy7003, #163908:
In reply to MoreLikePuma, #163907:

I think we're entering a realm of opinion. But, for an example, I believe Batman Begins has a better theme of 'Fear', as opposed to The Dark Knight, which I find hard to get a theme from.

Duality. What we think we are versus what we really are.
Lemmy7003
#163833   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to MoreLikePuma, #163909:

Now that I think about it, I think Nolan once said he believes the theme to be Escalation.
ChipperHalf
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#163834   Posted 1 year ago
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I don't think you can compare TDK and Avengers. I've been saying this a lot lately. The energy is just completely different. TDK and BB are realistic approaches to a comic world, but Avengers embraced all the comic goodness possible. I love both for really different reasons. I don't think any comic book movie could match TDK in darkness or depth, but they're different films, they're supposed to encourage different things in us. Avengers was fun and amazing and eye catching and glorious. You came out going YEAH WOO THAT WAS SO FUN. TDK you came out disturbed and haunted and like wooooow.
jedipoet
bazinga
#163835   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to ChipperHalf, #163911:

one is a comic, one is a graphic novel.
CapDac
20 yrs of JP
#163836   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to JayCee, #163890:
Especially since someone, and frak if I can remember who, renamed the movie "Tom Cruise Jumps At Things: And Misses."

Yo.

Seriously, aside from a brief part at the opening, most of that movie was Tommy jumping off stuff trying to land on other stuff and smashing his ribs. By the end of that movie his skeleton was like gravel.



In reply to Lemmy7003, #163910:

Escalation is a big part of it, after say, Begins ended with "we bring guns, they bring rockets, we bring kevlar, they bring armour-piercing rounds" and shit like that, and the next movie opened with it. But I agree with Puma, duality's the big thing I see out of The Dark Knight. Batman, Two-Face, Gordon and the Joker are all reflections of each other in various ways. Take, for instance, the scene where Wayne throws Dent a fundraiser - both Wayne and the Joker enter by saying something like "Just made it!" Both of them immediately ask the room "Where is Harvey Dent?" Both of them spill champagne out of the glass. And so on. Duality is the big thing in that movie.
Lemmy7003
#163837   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to CapDac, #163913:

I guess that is a major theme of the film. On the theme of escalation, I believe that when the police (i.e Gordon) uses Batman to get the Asian guy back (no idea what his name was), that was when the mob became despereate, and escalated to using the Joker.
jedipoet
bazinga
#163838   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to Lemmy7003, #163914:

which in turn caused batman to escalate the sonar tech.
CapDac
20 yrs of JP
#163839   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to Lemmy7003, #163914:

In reply to jedipoet, #163915:

That's a bingo!
megafire
RogueOfFlame
#163840   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to jedipoet, #163915:

Which also showed why Batman's the good guy.

He destroyed the sonar tech, showing that he stopped escalating.
ChipperHalf
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#163841   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to jedipoet, #163912:

That is a perfect analysis, thank you! ;)
jedipoet
bazinga
#163842   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to ChipperHalf, #163918:

You're welcome, alternative analysis; comparing Dark Knight and the Avengers would he like comparing Star Wars and 2001. Same genre vastly different in scope and tone.
CapDac
20 yrs of JP
#163843   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to jedipoet, #163919:

Ooooh, I like that one
ErokDragun
FORUM MOD
#163844   Posted 1 year ago
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graphic novels are comics.....pretentious bastards who didnt want to be considered immature made a new word for an old art.
ErokDragun
FORUM MOD
#163845   Posted 1 year ago
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ofcourse you all know this
CapDac
20 yrs of JP
#163846   Posted 1 year ago
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Comics are the overall medium...the two types are the graphic novel (clear beginning and end) and comic serial (ongoing for god knows how long).
jedipoet
bazinga
#163847   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to ErokDragun, #163921:

Says the cynical asshole. ;)
SpiderWolve
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#163848   Posted 1 year ago
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ChipperHalf
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#163849   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to SpiderWolve, #163925:

I seriously laughed out loud at that moment.
SpiderWolve
Sponsor
#163850   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to ChipperHalf, #163926:

Me too. That and the scene where Loki is being all pretentious and talking down to Hulk telling him that he was a god then suddenly being interrupted and smashed around in the the floor like a rag doll had me in stitches. :D

ErokDragun
FORUM MOD
#163851   Posted 1 year ago
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btw, tonight is the largest Full Moon of the year. SO make sure to check it out and give it a good howl!
ErokDragun
FORUM MOD
#163852   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to CapDac, #163923:

the problem with that definition is a lot of "graphic novels" today are just collected issues covering a specific storyline. The term was made to allow pretentious bastards to sound more mature when they read their comics....no other reason.
yeager
#163853   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to ErokDragun, #163929:

We just call them "trades" round these parts. There's a hipstery crowd who call everything from single issues, to trade paper backs, to manga, "graphic novels"
ChipperHalf
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#163854   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to SpiderWolve, #163927:

Oh yeah. The scene with him wrecking Loki in the middle of his villain monologue was probably my favorite moment in the entire movie. I can see why people said the Hulk owned this movie, because I can honestly say my favorite scenes were with him.
SpiderWolve
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#163855   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to ChipperHalf, #163931:

Agreed! Althought, even though I saw it coming before the movie, I was genuinely upset that Loki killed Agent Coulson :( he was a great guy.
ChipperHalf
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#163856   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to SpiderWolve, #163932:

Yeah we were talking about that before. I think I made my opinion clear on it. It was a good death and I think he was highly respected and mourned well. Hell he's the reason they're like fuck it we're being assholes let's get our act together.
Slaktare
Moustache
#163857   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to ChipperHalf, #163933:

it was really awesome seeing him go all fanboy over Cap, but coulson went out like a champ shooting loki with the devastator gun
SpiderWolve
Sponsor
#163858   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to ChipperHalf, #163933:

Definitely. It brought Tony Stark out of his self centeredness like I really wasn't expecting. Was very well done.
Slaktare
Moustache
#163859   Posted 1 year ago
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Mark Ruffalo Was an awesome banner and Beside the asswhooping hulk gave loki, my favorite hulk moment was when the first big flying dinosaur robot showed up, hulk flies in punches him in the face, and stops him dead in his tracks
Chi_Mangetsu
mulattobutts
#163860   Posted 1 year ago
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