My least favorite character in the movie was Cap. His storyline/arc in the movie is on the cutting room floor. So we start movie with cynical Cap and end the movie with Leader/hopeful cap. I hope the extended cut means he gets more fleshed out.
Also, who in here is going to RvBTO? My recent journal is kind of important, so I would appreciate some help and feedback if you'll be there! I don't really want to post in the RvBTO thread because I'd rather not bunk up with strangers I don't know or trust.
Only con I think I can afford this year is Ota in Baltimore at the end of the month. Always wanted to go to RvBTO but getting up there never really seemed logistically possible, sadly.
Meh, you know what, I'm going to go on the positive side here and say fuck it I liked everyone in the Avengers. I wanted more from a few people, but I wouldn't say anyone (at least IMO) was bad. When I thought of the question it was more like 'who was less good' not 'who was bad.' So fuck it. I liked everyone. I'm still happy smiles all around about that movie. That's my answer and I'm sticking to it. :D
I liked everyone too. If we're picking which one we'd like to see more from, I'm going with Thor. I felt like his power level was downplayed too much during the final fight and some more interaction with Coulson and Selvig would've given him more to do.
I would've liked ANY interaction with Thor and Selvig. We kind of skipped that part entirely, which is too bad. I'd say Cap got shafted a lot, because we all know how much of his personal stuff ended up cut. The director's cut and deleted scenes will show more, maybe even the Thor Selvig stuff we're talking about too. And I don't know if I'd call Thor downplayed. The only reason Cap and Tony defeated him was because of the shield, and he was holding his own with the Hulk. They couldn't make it completely easy on his part either. He did better than Loki against the Hulk, lol!
That's kind of the thing, Thor held his own against the Hulk yet he and Loki went head to head and stalemated while Hulk trashed Loki. One could make he argument he didn't want to hurt his brother, but we've already established he knows Loki's killing for fun and a sound ass-kicking is in order. I just felt like they took him down a notch for the sake of prolonging the fight (using lightning against all the serpents would've been literal godmode).
I don't know where a Thor-Selvig moment would fit in without throwing off the pacing of the end, but I was definitely hoping for it. His exchange with Tony about him was a nice reminder that Thor had more emotional investment in Earth than Jane. I think some more time with Coulson would've been a nice way to make his death hit him even harder.
If you remember, Thor sucker punch upper cutted Hulk square in the jaw and Hulk still kept coming. Had they not gotten Hulk off the Helicarrier he would have wiped the floor with Thor.
I thought Renner was really good as Hawkeye, but he needed more of a chance to be Hawk rather than Loki's flying monkey. In all honesty I'd say Evans was probably the least engaging for me personally.
traditionally, Thor and Iron Man are pretty evenly matched, Loki is quite weaker than Thor, but still hell and gone above mortals, and Hulk starts off about equal to Thor and gets stronger as he goes.
I know it hasnt been played up too much in the movies, but Starks armor is, quit literally, the most advanced, powerful piece of tech on the planet.
I think the fight scene where Thor crushed IM's forearm really let Stark know the power levels he was dealing with, but I think Stark would have won that fight in the end....not with force, but with cunning....Thors main weakness.
I think it was mostly important to see that all the characters were strong in their own way, but they had weaknesses and strengths. Thor might have the lightning and the hammer and strength, but like Erok just pointed out, he doesn't have the cleverness. But that's why he's a much better person to go up against the Hulk because that was mostly about brute strength. As for Loki, he's weaker than Thor and not at all a very good combatant outside of tricks, that's why he didn't spend a lot of the movie doing any actual fighting. He's a strategist and trickster, not a warrior. Also when Thor went up against Loki at the end, he was already pretty exhausted. That's after fighting Cap and Stark, followed by being dropped a LONG way down, and having little to no rest. Loki was pretty much at full strength as opposed to all the rest of them during that final fight. But even at full strength he's not going to be able to handle the Hulk. Not in full SMASH EVERYTHING mode.
I think the key word in that was "decent." Which I personally disagree with. I liked Widow's opening scene, her recruitment of Bruce and their subsequent back and forths during the film, her fight with Hawkeye, her interrogation of Loki, her conversation with Hawkeye about his brainwashing, and then the fight scene. This is obviously just my opinion, but I pretty much dug all of the above scenes.
My favorite of Thor's was definitely his first conversation with Loki. Although that was hilariously commented on by Tony going "Shakespeare in the park?"
Hawkeye on the other hand only had the fight with Natasha, the convo with her after, and his few scenes at the final battle. His role was pretty much 95% action oriented only, but Renner's pretty awesome. I'd love for him to get more to do in upcoming films.
Presumably, but nothing in their fight indicated that would be the case. They wanted Hulk gone for the helicarrier's safety, not Thor's.
I never said this. I'm saying had the fight been allowed to continue Thor would have lost. He was getting exhausted and Hulk continued coming at him with more and more tenacity. He was going to lose that fight eventually.
