After listening to podcast 157 I have finally realised I have not been enjoying the podcasts as much as I used to listening the older ones. Of course, it doesn't really concern rooster teeth whether I stop listening or not - but I just wanted to know whether anyone else feels similar.
When listening to the older podcasts I used to notice casual bullying in some parts, namely against Jack, Gavin and Brandon mainly. Although for the most part I would have accepted it as friendly jibes among friends there were parts where I thought the RT crew stepped very far over the line. As an example I remember the time that Jack's house was burgled, having experienced this myself I know it is a horrible experience to feel almost violated and unsafe in your own home with most of your possessions gone; however for many podcasts it became a topic of ridicule where they laughed at jack about it. This kind of bullying, whilst not as extreme, has continued in the form of snide remarks and cruel jokes - sometimes with the person present.
On podcast #30, Gavin made a remark about headlight fluid - which I'm sure you all know and have laughed at as I have. Back to podcast #157, when I listen, all I hear are the rest of RT trying to make Gav look just as stupid; like some desperate attempt to have some material to put into animation. Despite repeatedly being told a clear and correct point the rest proceeded to laugh at him about it. After reading out a fact that proved Gavin correct - they still carried on laughing at him. The casual bullying combining with this blatantly obvious attempt to try and be funny makes me feel like it's forced: So I ask, after years of doing these podcasts talking about their lives and gaining a large following why have they suddenly started trying to be funny?
I'm concerned, because I love these podcasts, and I don't want them to do stand up, I would prefer them to just be themselves.
Does anyone feel the same way?
Addition: I also find it funny how Jack was once a subject of ridicule and now here he is doing the exact same to Gavin. I thought Jack was way out of line with Gav on this podcast.
I didn't understand Burnie's point about Gavin "not knowing her [the Queen's] name". He literally told them it was Mary but it was part of her middle name (which was right). Then they kept repeating that Gavin didn't know, and it made absolutely no sense.
But anyway, I think they're a lot meaner to Brandon or Michael. Gavin is pretty laidback and usually just laughs it off, but it's the former two that get really up-in-arms and defensive, and that's where it stops being enjoyable. Jack's getting better at letting things slide, but I agree he's quick to jump on the wagon when it comes to somebody else.
I really liked 157 (much more than 156). Reminded me of classic Drunk Tank, and Gavin's sarcastic "Wow that's great, I wish I lived here" was well put, and he came out on top.
Jack seems to be getting more arrogant for lack of a better term. Don't get me wrong, I still think he's funny and makes valid points sometimes, but more often than not he is just annoying with a lot of what he says.
Whether they're friends or not I think laughing about someone having half their possessions taken away from them is over the limit for anyone. It definitely feels like they're trying to get laughs rather than just talking like they used to
I do enjoy them still alot but I have noticed how the things "heat up" and get slighly disdurbing. Espessially on the live stream, it was almost like who world was against gav. I have no problem with someone making fun of other one, but during that live stream I felt like they crossed the line, big time.
They do seam to be trying to get more laughs then actually talking about stuff, the old ones were more like the new RT life videoThey do seam to be trying to get more laughs then actually talking about stuff, the old ones were more like the new RT life video.
And to their defense people change..... A lot of people work at RT so things can change in big ways.
It's almost like they don't wait for Gav to say something stupid anymore. They assume everything that he says is wrong. I think it was podcast 156 when they yell at him about Pancake Tuesday. Instead of checking to see if it exists before they rip him a new one, they do the opposite. Really made them look foolish, in my opinion.
I understand what your saying but I always thought they would stick to being community driven media producers. Although I haven't spent any time on these forums there's always been a community feel with RT, with feedback being welcomed and listened to. With the companies expansion it seems to have lost this feeling.
Comparing this to Mega64, who have fans email the podcast every week when streaming and will always talk about fan feedback and their opinions on their videos, the community feedback has definitely been reduced.
I for one don't really understand why RT has hired so many people; although I don't have the full facts on this, I don't really understand what Barbara actually does other than send mass e-mails and post journals about news and RTX.
Yes, this annoyed me too, obviously pancake day is a bit pointless in this modern age, but instead of discussing that they tried to make Gav look stupid for even mentioning it's existence. They don't help much with the "Ignorant American" stereotype that the rest of the world think of the US.
The Mega64 podcast is a great example. 4 or 5 friends just talking and hanging out and talking about stuff they like and the comedy flows from there. In my opinion, all the greatest drunk tank moments have come from the guys just having fun conversation. If an argument stems from a discussion, that makes awesome podcasting, but name calling and belittling doesn't.
Exactly, plus I've always felt the Mega64 crew don't really take the piss out of each other much, or they at least tone it down for the podcast. Doing the animations for their podcast never effected they way they do it as much as Rooster Teeth
I definitely feel similarly, in that many times the humor feels forced. This could be just a product of having done 157 hour-plus episodes of unscripted dialogue, however. Monty came in a while back and ripped on them for getting repetitive with their stories, but it's kind of to be expected.
Eventually, you run out of things to say and you have to find new material where you can get it...especially since Rooster Teeth Animated Adventures is getting caught up on the backlog of animate-able stories.
It can't be that because Mega64 have done over 200, still just as funny They do repeat the same stories a lot though, however I'm sure they have a lot going on in their lives to talk about. That's the thing, the podcast was never about getting "material" it was just about talking about current events etc. They should make the animated adventures seasonal so they don't have to constantly think about what funny thing to say that could be animated.
Most likely helping griffon with The Fort project she's working on, however I do think there is some bad blood in the office at the moment, or at least between griffon and the RT crew. Maybe I'm reading between the lines too much?
On the other hand, this new RT Life series is very good now they are filming actual everyday life, it feels like a step in the right direction.
The episode where Monty came on and complained about telling old stories over and over made me so angry. I don't know about the rest of you, but I have no problems hearing the same stories because they always lead to something new. More often than not, somebody who had never been on the podcast would be there, or it would help jog their memories and bring up new stories. I mean, every time Gus tells the story about throwing up and having a bean shoot out of his nose was hysterical because everyone reacts differently.
Think you are confusing banter between friends and bullying. Listen back to the podcasts about jacks house being burgled, he laughed along with everyone else. So did Gus when he was getting ripped into about all the problems he was having with his house. They are all big boys, if something was said that seriously offended them they would speak up. To be fair to them If I had never heard of pancake day before I probably would of thought Gav was insane as well haha.
The whole point in bullying is the person getting bullied usually doesn't speak up...
If one of my friends laughed at me getting burgled, I'd make sure he wasn't my friend pretty soon after, clearly you've either never experienced it or love the RT guys too much to think they might put a foot wrong
There is a big difference between Gus having problems with his house and Jack getting burgled.
If you think Jack isn't on the receiving end of a lot of abuse (both on and off the podcast) you're either stupid, ignorant or both.