David Bowie vs The World of Racism pt 2(See part 1 for the first part of the debate)
Him: The way they want to stand out is what is wrong. Sure they can do it whatever, its the fact they then blame white cops for arresting them when they run out of gas stations. Like lol whut the fuck you are dressing like a fucking criminal and running what the actual fuck do you expect? And the fact they still think they deserve the world or are to blind to know there past is what I dislike.
Me: How can they know their past when so much of it trying to figure out who they are in this country, when the Europeans carted them off away from their lives?
Him: I meant. Some blacks dont even know anything about the south and being slaved and then they th...
David Bowie vs The World of Racism pt 2(See part 1 for the first part of the debate)
Him: The way they want to stand out is what is wrong. Sure they can do it whatever, its the fact they then blame white cops for arresting them when they run out of gas stations. Like lol whut the fuck you are dressing like a fucking criminal and running what the actual fuck do you expect? And the fact they still think they deserve the world or are to blind to know there past is what I dislike.
Me: How can they know their past when so much of it trying to figure out who they are in this country, when the Europeans carted them off away from their lives?
Him: I meant. Some blacks dont even know anything about the south and being slaved and then they think they deserve money and shit. They also think they dont need school or jobs and they dress the way they do and get attacked for being a drop out but they say 'no thats racist.' Its not racist your just a fuckin idiot.
Me: Any every white knows everything about black history, graduates high school and never commits crimes.
Him: Im not saying they do, I'm just saying we don't play a race card when we get arrested or run out and do something stupid. But almost every black person does. Because they think theyre better than the law because they did go through that past.
Me: No white person needs to play a race card because they ruled the country for centuries. Because no one feels sorry for them when they bring up what few atrocities were committed against them as a whole group. Because sometimes a race card is all someone has to get them to the next level.
Him: Its a double fucking standard for them. They dont want to use the race card unless it fits them. Which is so fucking stupid and why as a whole I cant stand them because they are hypocritical about it. 'You cant be racist. We can but you cant.' 'We dont want special treatment for being this race.' 'thats racist you cant do that to me.'
Me: Overall you're just a sad jealous white kid. Life isn't fair. Your ancestors proved that to mine and others. You don't like double standards? Great. You still have more opportunities to succeed than most of these people you keep referring to as 'they'.
Him: I'm not sad or jealous, nothing to be jealous of I know I have more opportunities to succeed but that's purely because of the way people go about it and where I live. Also my ancestors we're irish and danish, either in a civiil war against english irish or under oppression from germany so mine didnt prove shit about life being fair. Heres a plot twist. Just because youre native american you think anyone whose white has ancestors that treated yours unfairly when that isnt the case. You are also totally against racism but when its fitting to be racist toward white people youre all for it. Rethink your argument theres a lot of fuckin wholes. Everyone is racist. Its just to what extent.
Me: You are not sad emotionally but in a pitiful way. I can claim up and down all day to hate white people. The truth is I don't. I'm not just against racism, I'm against all discrimination
. Just because your ancestors were Irish or Danish doesn't mean they were always under Germany's thumb. The Danes are infamous for their viking ancestry and during the Omaha race riots, people of all nationalities were brutalized and perpetrators of violent crimes, and don't think the Irish are above anyone in that. I'm Native American and proud of my heritage, and while I agree that I play that card when the need arises, I hold no illusions to the doors that guilty white people can open for me. My entire argument is not invalidated because of some personal hypocrisies (all of which were given, not demanded or expected). Do not insult my intelligence with childish curses, it only makes me give you yet another look of derision. I have said what I can say and can tell you have nothing more to say of merit by sloppy language and repetition.
Him: I never said your whole argument was ;) but there is a lot more holes in said argument. I'm not insulting any intelligence with cursing. If you cant handle someone saying fuck or bullshit you for one are not only in the wrong country but the wrong part of the world. The honest truth is when far to many people claim to be something but them themselves are racist because it is a proven fact everyone is, even if its only for two seconds when you first see someone, humans as a whole. Make a judgement within two seconds off of looks/color, and actions. So if said judgement is 'stereotypical nigger.' That does not make that person a total racist but they would be racist and races as a whole because of the past they had are meant to be racist, if it be the Japs to hate the Chinese for that little island in the middle, whites to hate blacks, blacks to hate whites, it doesnt matter. We are only as knowledgeable as what we choose to learn and what we are taught.
Me: The fact is as soon as you begin cursing in a conversation people take you less seriously. I'm not adverse to that kind of language but when trying to make a point a point it only behooves. And while basic human nature is to make judgements in seconds (which aided in survival) that is not a suitable explanation for continual thoughts of inequality and hate against another group of people. In a time when there are so many different kinds of people living in a place there is no room for petty instinctual habits when we laud ourselves as the most advanced species on the planet.